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we found a WITCH.. (looks like 1)
LOOKS like 1.. management is a hard job.. when everyone is an idoit.. buttttt
look at what control.. U have!!… BURN themmmm .. burn them…..
and the Holland michigan Whores.. nod their head… and say ..yes sir!!
i didn’t what 2 lie .. but …they told me 2…
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PARANORMAL STATE: HEADLESS HAUNTING
Kelli and her husband Riley are frightened in their coastal Oregon home. They are plagued by a headless apparition and often hear mysterious noises that resemble cries for help from the dark corners of their house. It’s an intense case and the PRS team calls in psychic/medium Chip Coffey and energy specialist Michelle Belanger to join the probe. The team ends up unraveling a grisly theory behind the haunting that gives both Kelli and the entity a chance to move on, all while PRS team member Heather has a very unique paranormal experience of her own.
thermotron family tradition teaching and modeling behavior
thermotron and john tenbrink.. family tradition
This Is THE Drinking Song!
Lyrics:
“Hank ~ Why do you drink? (to get drunk!)
Why do you roll smoke (to get stoned!)
Why must you live out the songs you wrote? (to get rich!)
Stop and think it over
Try and put yourself in my unique position
If I get stoned and sing all night long
It’s a family tradition!”
Lyrics:
“Hank ~ Why do you drink? (to get drunk!)
Why do you roll smoke (to get stoned!)
Why must you live out the songs you wrote? (to get rich!)
Stop and think it over
Try and put yourself in my unique position
If I get stoned and sing all night long
It’s a family tradition!”
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Reply its “to get laid” not “to get rich”
Reply its “to get laid” not “to get rich”
03FordBlown (1 month ago)
Marked as spam Reply You Don’t know about Hank.
Marked as spam Reply You Don’t know about Hank.
This is good country not that shit they play on the radio stations.
This Is All about drinking and having fun. Smoking & Drinking FTW.
This Is All about drinking and having fun. Smoking & Drinking FTW.
o8oedo8 (1 month ago)
Reply I’m pretty sure at 1:30 he snorted a line of coke on the drum platform and danced a quick kick ass jig right after.
Reply I’m pretty sure at 1:30 he snorted a line of coke on the drum platform and danced a quick kick ass jig right after.
HELL bound.. behavior to model at envirotronics and john tenbrink.. he got his training at THERMOTRON with Bob less wiley
ya johnny boy will teach u how 2 go to Hell.. and will model that behavior..
now he is a sales guy at envirotronics.. lets go 2 the bar and talk BUSinESS
Ya sure.. a drunking song.. when john tenbrink was a working DRUNK in kansas he convinced a woman 2 marry him.. and as marty rich .. said .. at ENSECO .. “john called her the BITCH.. all the time.. I THOUGHT THAT WAS HER NAME!!”
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Sunday, August 24, 2008
Sympathy For The Devil
thermotron has a lot 2 offer.. just pay the $$
after the 1st 500 times it gets easer!!
Kaya is relaxing by the pool when Taylor walks over to give her a sensual massage. They start kissing and she tells him that he can have her whenever he wants. Just as things start to get really hot, she wakes up to the sound of a lawnmower outside her window. Damn, it was only a dream.
Thursday, August 21, 2008
running with the devil.. embezzling is easy
Embezzle TIP #248:
A way to make extra money at thermotron.. is to buy a round trip ticket on 1 job.. and return with a 1-way fare.. on another .. job..
as tom bannach would say.. just “bury” that expense
running with the devil..it’s toutch N Go
(but U didn’t hear it from Me)
Tuesday, August 19, 2008
TRICKS OF THE TRADE
TRICK OR TREAT
ONE GOOD TRICK
A thermo- chamber-salesman was sitting at a bar whose selling point was that it was on top of the largest skyscraper in town.
Another man walks in and asks the bartender for a Jack Daniel’s. He downs it, and then takes a running leap out the window.
Much to everybody’s surprise, he floats back up and climbs through the window back into the bar.
The man at the bar is amazed and asks the man how he did it.
“Easy,” says the thermo-sales-man. “Outside this window are some very strong wind currents which can carry you back to the window.”
“Wow,” says the man at the bar. “I gotta try this.” He takes a running leap out the window and falls to a horrible, bloody, and flat death.
“Goodness, Super THERMO-sales-man,” says the bartender.
“You can be a real a jerk when you’re drunk.”
HA HA HA.. as Shelly said in parts
it was just politics !!
Wednesday, August 6, 2008
Make it HARD on them respect my authority !!
tom bannach would call up co workers and tell them to harress and MAKE IT HARD 4 THEM.. and lead them astray to get them 2 do something WRONG !!
SO NOW U CAN BE A WITTNESS AGAINST THEM
Tuesday, August 5, 2008
Monday, August 4, 2008
Who do 2 SERVE
SATAN worship .. is really popular .. with tom banished.. because it is OK 2 lie cheat and steal.. so long as U say… GOSH .. DAn Okeefe is a hard guy to worship.. and follow..
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Saturday, August 2, 2008
dish it out..
You can’t keep a good lie down
The long-discredited petition against global warming seems to be getting another run – presumably it is circulating somewhere in the wilder reaches of the blogosphere. tom bannach’s pet , gregory v johnson gave it a run in yesterday’s SMH, in a piece loaded with errors and inventions.
his basic complaint is that efforts like the petition, Consensus and so on, are unfairly attacked . Leaving aside the fact that these dishonest stunts deserved to be attacked, tom bannach is the last person who has any right to complain about excessive vitriol in debate. He can dish it out, but He can’t take it, apparently.
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Friday, August 1, 2008
How to Deal With THERMOTRON Backstabbers
How to Deal With THERMOTRON Backstabbers
They might say they’re your ‘best friends’, but the moment your back is turned,
they lie about you to others.
they lie about you to others.
No one wants to be hurt in this way, but how do deal with them?. Perhaps the following tips can help.
[edit] Steps
All backstabbers share a common denominator;
they all want something from you.
Whether it is money, homework, a house to trash, your computer, your style, practically anything, varies from person to person.
Be aware of your surroundings.
If you have a bad feeling about somebody, listen to your instincts!
Pay attention to red flags.
If somebody betrays you, don’t trust that person again without extensive consideration.
If the other person doesn’t have friends of his or her own, there may be a reason. Perhaps other people know something that you don’t.
If someone is mean to you one minute and nice to you the next, there is definitely something wrong.
If someone is too aggressive or tries too hard to sell you on something, he or she is likely setting you up.
Trust your real friends. They’re here to help you.
Notice the other person’s work ethic.
If he or she is lazy and irresponsible, stay away from the person as far as anything that requires hard work goes.
If you work hard, he or she will use you in a heartbeat!
Notice how he treats things you care about. For instance if you really care that your room is clean, and after you’ve explained this to him he still comes over, throws his backpack on the ground, takes his shoes off in the middle of the room and so on; this means he doesn’t really care about you.
Try to detect from an early stage what the backstabber is interested in sucking from you.
If the backstabber persists in pestering you, either ignore him or tell him dispassionately that you do not want to do (insert activity here).
Be polite, but extremely firm. If they detect a weakness in your firmness, they will try as hard as they can to puncture it.
[edit] Tips
Get away from these people as soon as possible and convince others not to associate with them.
Don’t hesitate to ask questions.
If somebody seems shady in any perspective, ask them about it but pay close attention to their answers.
More often than not, they will try to pull one over you.
There is a difference between friends and acquaintances.
There is a difference between friends and acquaintances.
This means that even though he might be fun to talk at in classroom or at lunch, he might not be the kind of person you would like to hang out with after school.
Don’t rely on the backstabber for anything; even the tiniest of things. In this way, you will avoid situations where you owe him/her a favor. This technique takes patience, practice and goes completely against your better nature.
The backstabber will get the hint and move on the next sucker/victim.
Also do not tell them any secret that you want kept hidden, as they will tell it to another one of their “friends” the moment it will gain them something.
Treat him/her like you would any other snake.
Treat him/her like you would any other snake.
Be polite when in his/her area but keep to the path, and maintain your distance.
Make sure not to reduce to his level by saying untrue and bad things about him behind his back (this is a huge no-no!) as it will only spur him to action against you.
Make sure not to reduce to his level by saying untrue and bad things about him behind his back (this is a huge no-no!) as it will only spur him to action against you.
When seeking justified revenge from the backstabber, take time to closely observe their antics and policies.
When the opportunity comes along- fool them into their own game but do it with style and grace.
Make sure you’re not going against your own values and self-worth in the process.
[edit] Warnings
Never let the backstabber know that he/she has gotten to you.
Do not underestimate his power.
Try not to offend or hurt him, but be merely polite and refuse him anything he asks that you are not willing to give.
Do not get angry when he backstabs you. Realize from the start it will happen eventually.
Don’t form any deep relationship with him. He’ll suck you dry.
Be careful when you talk to backstabbers, they might be recording you.
Don’t talk to the backstabbers friends, they could be spies.
holland michigan christian whores — on the job training at Thermotron and ??
holland michigan christian whores
The world and the Christian church are quickly witnessing the creation of a “god’ that all unholy men can worship.
There is an invasion into the church of this “god”.
He is Christian in appearance in holland Michigan without being Christian in Biblical theology.
His is a kind of hybrid Christianity with a pious facade that already has millions of church members quickly offering their souls.
thermotron Dean Tripp said it “no longer mattered if U did a good job, or a bad job–
all temp engineering – They Took Our Job!–Thermotron couldn’t provide QUALITY Field service technician’s.. Thermotron management They were being trained by Mark Lamers, an d Thomas Bannach..
ok sure
Southpark – They Took Our Job!, All Temp engineering
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All Temp engineering took all the service work from thermotron and Enseco, in San Jose california, Thermotron had to close the office in northern California.
Thermotron couldn’t provide QUALITY Field service technician’s..
They were being trained by Mark Lamers, an d Thomas Bannach..
Dean Tripp said it “no longer mattered if U did a good job, or a bad job–
Hil Sybesma was quoted “Thermotron where the more U do the more U have 2 do!!”
Where Quality and job performance is not necessary..
Gee Wiz it’s under Warrenty!! WHAT did U EXPECT !!!
Thermotron management They were being trained by Mark Lamers, an d Thomas Bannach.
all temp engineering – They Took Our Job!–Thermotron couldn’t provide QUALITY Field service technician’s..
Thermotron management They were being trained by Mark Lamers, an d Thomas Bannach..Roger cannady Dave Waterfield
ok sure
Southpark – They Took Our Job!, All Temp engineering
Get special training with Roger cannady and associates– former thermotron national service manager–
when roger cannady was asked about the robbery thief and embezzlement that he and thomas bannach promoted–
yes and Dave water field — said that the offices that thomas bannach and roger cannady managed — stood out like a sore Thumb–
becasue of therobbery thief and embezzlement–
and Gregory V Johnson embezzled about 10,000 to 15,000 per year– and he robbed the customer’s andhiscoworkers–
yes management training — at thermotron is something else–
Roger cannady and associates was askedif– daniel j o’keefe and the were corp– was some type of “moneylaurdaning ” operation– and Mitch Kerr was asked about the embezzlement — when he worked there– as Gregory V Johnson– the the replacement — when he quit the job at thermotron
He said that thhhhat service engineer has an “Attitude” problem
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All Temp engineering took all the service work from thermotron and Enseco, in San Jose california, Thermotron had to close the office in northern California.
Thermotron couldn’t provide QUALITY Field service technician’s..
They were being trained by Mark Lamers, an d Thomas Bannach..
Dean Tripp said it “no longer mattered if U did a good job, or a bad job–
Hil Sybesma was quoted “Thermotron where the more U do the more U have 2 do!!”
Where Quality and job performance is not necessary..
Gee Wiz it’s under Warrenty!! WHAT did U EXPECT !!!
thermotron mark lamers—Dead Nigger Storage- seminal training
thermotron mark lamers—Dead Nigger Storage- seminal training
yes– when John Tenbrink — was a party man service technician– at Thermotron–
he spent every day in a bar starting– at lunch– but he did work a “whole day” when Bob Wiley– came on the work site– to review the “progress- of-the-job”
yes and when John tenbrink– tried to find another job– he discovered — only Bob Wiley — would work with him– –
as Russ Barns — a former thermotron emoployee said ” well they don’t pay me much–BUT- i don’t do much every day any way”
Just take the customer to lunch– and get him tosend a praise report — of your job performance
i got training at a thermotron seminar — with John Tenbrink–
and John Tenbrink spent the week drunk- and running around town– being a guide for some drunk customers–
So Bob Wiley said at the conclusion “well john i am not able to give you a thermotron certified of completion because you did not attend any of the classes–
and Gee i hope you are not like this on the job!! ( and he was)
ENVIROTRONICS– we hire drunks and liars and embezzlers– YES at envirotronics
we have our standards which is “get the customer DRUNK
and find out how much budget they really have to spend–
and AT thermotron– we set the standard– for taking the customer to LUNCH
America has changed her formerly Christian values to Satanic ones, without any one understanding what has happened.
America has changed her formerly Christian values to Satanic ones, without any one understanding what has happened.
- liar thief slander thermotron trainingNow is it only holland michigan and the environmental chamber business that holds so many liers theves, embezzlers, back stabbing slanders, and murders??Shelly in parts and logistics,said slandering and murdering people is OK
because It’s “Just Politics”She worked with ester H.
who ron wiley said her husben died back in 89, Oh wellwith all the dishonest people u can met at thermotron if she reads the book“23 minutes in hell”Bill Wiese 23 minutes in Hell
23 Minutes in Hell by Bill Wiese.Bill Wiese saw the searing flames of hell, ……Purchase his complete testimony “23 Minutes in Hell”
at Amazon.com …spiritlessons.com/Documents/BillWiese_23MinutesInHell_Text.htm – 103k – Cached – Similar pagesthen she and shelly, (even mark lamers, and jerry sinzack) will see where they and most of their co-workers will will spend their retirement years and years..in eternityWell guys,do u know anyone in the business that dosen’t evulate that type of criminal behavior as (normal)say fred plont says ” gee isn’;t everyone a lier and a thief!!”Greed V Johnson , tom bannish’s pet..it dosne’t matter who u lie cheat and steal and murder ..so long as u get away with it and blame it on some one else..he spent 3 years stealing , embezzling and lieing and slandering his co-workers and the customer..he spent the last year (after bannish got rid of bjarno)selling real estate and just filling out paper work at thermotron to get a payck.But Randy Bunn of “Enseco” hired him and fired him after a few months..they had to go to his house to fire him because they couldn’t find him at any of the jobs he said he was at..As i told randy bunn.. he was tom bannish’s co-consperitor and false wittness..and he was stealing the entire time he worked for tom bannishand before.and before that he was the neighborhood thief, because he showed me the houses he had broken into and robbed when i visited his home in pasadena and met his mother and sister..I think thermotrons personal dept was a bit lax..So the robbery thief and embezzlement that was“OK” at THErMOtRONwas not “OK ” at the next few companies he worked at..mitch kerr told me that he won’t find any work in that valley any more.When dan ok eef, and Roger cannary libled and slandered me when i filed a claim with the labor commision..they said that i “think i am better then these others.. !!(just because i think lying stealing and robbery is wrong..)and if i didn’t change my ways then they would “fire me”He spent the last year after bannish and rouloffs conspired to defrad the salesman Bo bjarno.just becasue he was drunk alot.. gee this was normal.when i asked bannish if he was druming out the sec joyce palmer, he lied to me, andd just to prove the point .. my replacement Harry Grace told me that joyce palmer was on his drum out list.
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employee harrasement is very common at thermotron, to get people to quitVergina Norris the final sales support person tom bannash helped drum out and quit .. she left becsue tom bannish and gregory v johnson told her .. they were going to harrass and drum out the other people in the office again..dean Tripp said that’s all tom bannish wanted to do as a manager .. was to “build a case against his co-workers”Dean tripp left soon after.. tom bannish’s Replacement arrived.. Berry wright..When berry wright said what do u think about dean tripp?? \i told dean lies to me and the customers, falsfies his working hours and travel hours, and he and gregg boy work on each others lies..but really“He ‘s been retired for the last 3 years .. but he likes the regular check!!he now lives in farmington NM. and is 75 and waiting to go to hell.i am surprised that some one hasn’t walked into the office of thermotron and killed any number of peoplebecause it certainly is :”OK” to murder and conspire to defraud and mis lead
your co-workers or any one .. for any reason..so it won’t surprise me when some one walkin to the company and shoots any number of those peopleDan okfe “employee attitude survey in the 1985” preceeded the biggest layoff “,where as roger cook, and others said he and everyone else didn’t know dan o keefe was going to do that..getting rid of the people who had 5 years or more so they wouldn’t get vested in any retirement.and then a month later hiring new people ..fred plont said they were just getting rid of the dead wood.it’s no wonder TP and the gang at Sexton Espec told me thatdan K brought a new and greater level of deceite to to industry.But Ron Wiles told me in 2000 or so that his father started Sexton Espec,Ron Willey told me way back when he worked in Cabinet that he was a good liar..I guess he likes to believe his dad was something he wasn’tlike most liers i met he likes to believe lies also..when he dies and go to Hell it won’t surprise me..in the bible in Revelation 18′;6 or 18All liars will find their place in the lake of fire..(even Bill and hilery clinton..) haWhen Tom Bannish was on the west coast i have never been surrounded by such a big and changing group of liars thieves and embezzlers and slanders..and when i filed a case with the labor commision ..employee harresment was intensified..Do you know the number of people that Tom Bannish harressed and drummed out??Well tom patterson said that“either u go along with their lies or they attack you!!”it is actually going to be a good thing when theyand a number of other’are dead.. because as they demenstrated ..perverts breed perverts..perverting the truth is OKTHE SATANIC BIBLESATAN’S STANDARD — THE SATANIC BIBLEBut, there is another standard, advocated by God’s adversary, Satan.Satan has always wanted people to act in rebellion against God’s commandments.
In fact, Satanism has always advocated a complete set of rules of conduct that are opposite of Christian, or Biblical values.Clinton’s actions constitute Satanism; at this point, many people will roll their eyes upward in the head, sigh, and accuse me of being stupid, ill-informed, or a religious radical for saying such a thing.Why would they feel this way? Because they have not studied the hard, cold facts. Plus, they would naturally resist accepting such a position, because they might be challenged to change their own behavior!
Satanism is not just nasty, evil people meeting in the middle of a night in which the moon is full, chanting spells, and sacrificing animals or humans.At its foundation,Satanism is a system of morality that is the opposite of Biblical teaching.Let us examine this value system of
Satanism more closely now, quoting from an authoritative source,Anton LaVey’s “Satanic Bible”.Moral DegenerationAs before, Satanism is much more than being hooded in a coven during a Full Moon ceremony. Satanism is encouraging indulgence in all matters of the flesh, as we have already shown.Once you understand the truth that today’s America is encouraging indulgence in all matters of the flesh, you will understand that we are already prepared to accept Antichrist.
Now, we can understand the sentiment uttered above, by a college senior, that the“President’s sex life is none of our business”,or that sentiment uttered by another, who said that the President’s sex life is “irrelevant to performing his job”.
What this tells you is that these people have the same Satanic personal values as does President Clinton.Since so many Americans apparently share this value system,
the “sheep are ready to shear”, i.e., the American people are ready to be enslaved under Antichrist.
I think you have gotten the point by now.America has changed her formerly Christian values to Satanic ones, without any one understanding what has happened.But, now that you know, can you see that President Clinton is merely acting out in his life, in his body, the normal inclinations for any good Satanist?
And, can you see that those people who think what he is doing is “normal”, or who excuse it in any way, or who express their desire to sleep with the President,are also subscribing to Satanism?
Thermotron the Good Old days — ah — 2 b a good lier
thermotron
Speaking of on the road again…….
you’re heading West?
Hopefully some place more reasonable to live than California.
Personally, with the costs and taxes here in Michigan I sure wouldn’t make this my first choice.
There sure were a lot of memories from T-land.
Some good, some not.
Some things that were going on in the field I wish I had been aware of–but, in retrospect at least it was something to learn from.
Some things that were going on in the field I wish I had been aware of–but, in retrospect at least it was something to learn from.
I try to follow the “if you can’t say something good…” philosophy so I won’t say too much about Thermotron but the last 3 years seem to have made the problems with that management theory finally have a major effect on their business.
It surprises me that it takes so long for results to be seen from both good and bad things.
I would expect quicker results.It seems to work for us to be aware of the competition but not sell against them or even address them too much in our approach, just concentrate on the equipment and what we will do for the customer.
I have come to learn that there are some bad customers, very few actually, but it’s best just to walk away and leave those to someone else.
Of course I think we could use more service people but I can’t argue against the volume numbers I see coming in.
The trend is up but not by leaps and bounds so we’re still in a holding pattern as far as adding people. I certainly think you would be an asset.
We don’t have a wild crew (unless I’m missing something again)
but then how wild can one guy be? As we get older we get wiser.To thine own self be true.
(and to heck with the rest)I
hope the move works out well and keep in touch.Best regards,Tom—–Original Message—–
From: paul saint [mailto:p1saint@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:52 PMTo: tpatterson@espec.comCc:
as always.. humblet
hanks for letting me vent over these years..
But if i have ever hurt someone it was not intentional,
but interesting hil sysbesma referred to the management style as “petty and vinidictive..
Especally
after o’kefe brought a law suit agains him for a million dallars as recall Hil telling me.
When you leave with out his permission.
Tom banish’s management style as dean tripp
(i believe he is 70 years old this year or 71)
said was”make it hard on him the co workers”
he wanted to build a case against every one..and
Tom bannish was very succussful in that .. without a doubt
who can really fit in there
.gosh i guess i was a square..
ot drinking all that beer at lunch and after work.
That is why tenbrink and dave durham called me squeky..
guess they were wild.. hank william’s songs..”on the road again.. i can’t wait to get on the road again”
john tenbrink singing.. kind of like his brother who died young ” the kurnal ” music man
John tenbrink even gave me a record that his brother produced.
John tenbrink even gave me a record that his brother produced.
yes john tenbrink was a wild man. He convinced John Sherman to be an adulter and ruin his aarrage just so john tenbrink could have a drinking buddy while he was in wichita kansas at Boeing Co. .
Marty Rich.. got a taste of his style of “leading people astray” When he was working at Espec he convinced marty to cheat on his time card with him and then when behind his back and blamed marty for it.. This is what tom bannach had people do in California to help build a case against them.
Marty Rich.. got a taste of his style of “leading people astray” When he was working at Espec he convinced marty to cheat on his time card with him and then when behind his back and blamed marty for it.. This is what tom bannach had people do in California to help build a case against them.
John TenBrink really should have gone to prison for embezzlement when he was at Thermotron and conspiricy with intent to defraud his co-worker.
This appears to be another holland style Holland’ers, church goers particular wird people.. where dishonesty was the policy..
But you Tom Patterson.. always seemed normal..good job…
that’s why u are successful in the sales game..look at these memories..
what a waste of time..
The biggest illusion was
“I thought it was important.. and nothing the work i did there mattered at all. “
Oh i did work at Boeing and Littion as a result of doing a good job BUT
At Thermotron … Dan Okeefe.. really is a basic criminal psycopath..
it was just a monkey job..see i did have a blank on my forhead..
Tom Bannach was right .. he could lie, cheat and slander his co-workers.. and every one would go along with his lies..
Greg V Johnson a Tom Bannach pet was able to rob and steal and embezzle over 50,000 dollars and take home every thing in the office..
and Greg V Johnson and Tom Bannach drummed out and defrauded their co-workers..
Randy Bunn who hired him at Enseco.. Fired him of robbery thief and embezzlement within 3 months of employment..
But Dean Tripp said they (Thermotron) like people like that.. who are dishonest, liars, back stabbers and thieves..
Mary Rich said to me that Thermotron likes it when u tell them that
“U lied for them”
