Wednesday, July 29, 2009

conspiracy with intent to defraud, law cases





AT thermotron ... conspiracy with intent to defraud .. was the common .. method.. used by thomas bannach.. and roger cannary, dave waterfield.. and dick head dan..


Thomas bannach.. would call up co- workers and .. conspire .. with them to make it hard and harrass .. co-workers to move them out.. or .. to convert them..


this is why.. Hil Sysbesma referred to HIM as "the spinless guttless wonder"

and Gregory V Johnson..bragged how he helped him.. defraud th co-workers.. and bragged how much he robbed the custome's , but said he didn't embezzle as much as hil sysbesma..


Hmmmm yes... thermotron is a company that will defraud you... and a matter of course !!


as thomas Patterson at ASPEC was hear to say.... "EITHER YOU GO ALONG WITH IT .. OR THEY WILL NOW ATTACK YOU"

When he replaced Bob Wiley... dan okeefe .. told him .. just find something .. your co-workers did .. and make a BIG DEAL... about it..

Thomas bannach... would go farther... he would call be GAY.. and assassinate their character..



he did this numerious times at thermotron and on the west coast..

shelly.. a worker in the parts dept.. said it was just POLITICS..

Harry Grace... told how when he hired on.. by thomas bannach... in california..

He said thomas bannach... was slandering the people he was "DRUMing.. OUT"

and even made a point .. i saying how he started with joyce palmer... with dick mckinley.. and how bo bjarno.. was part of the harrassment plan..




The Cowardly Character Assassination of Sarah Palin
by Michelle Malkin



Sunken ships loosen bitter lips. The failed McCain campaign, for all its high-minded talk of honor, duty and courage, is now teeming with unscrupulous gossipmongers. Seems the dishy staffers forgot to crack open their copies of Sen. McCain's bestseller, "Character Is Destiny: Inspiring Stories Every Young Person Should Know and Every Adult Should Remember."

Rest assured: Their cowardly character assassination of Sarah Palin won't be forgotten.

The finks turned to Newsweek and Fox News to spread petty rumors about Palin's intellect and character. The magazine peddled anecdotes from sources horrified that Palin greeted top advisers at her hotel room -- gasp! -- "wearing nothing but a towel" and "wet hair." Fox News reporter Carl Cameron breathlessly reported that his unnamed McCain sources told him Palin lacked "a degree of knowledgeability necessary to be a running mate" because, they claimed, she didn't know which countries were parties to the North American Free Trade Agreement and "didn't understand that Africa was a continent, rather than a series, a country just in itself."

Let's assume for a moment that the McCain rumormongers are telling the truth about Palin (and I don't believe they are). Who would it damn more: Palin, or McCain and his vetters, who greenlighted her for the vice presidential nomination? Don't need a fancy Ivy League degree to figure that one out.

In introducing her to America,





McCain praised her independence and backbone:


She "stands up for what's right, and she doesn't let anyone tell her to sit down." The inside snipers are now roasting her for that very attribute -- redefined as "going rogue" -- because she had the nerve to try to schedule media interviews on her own. The nerve of her!







Character assassination

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For the Spider-Man story arc, see Character Assassination (comics).
Character assassination is an attempt to tarnish a person's reputation. It may involve exaggeration or manipulation of facts to present an untrue picture of the targeted person. It is a form of defamation and can be a form of ad hominem argument.

For living individuals targeted by character assassination attempts, this may result in being rejected by his community, family, or members of his or her living or work environment. Such acts are often difficult to reverse or rectify, and the process is likened to a literal assassination of a human life. The damage sustained can last a lifetime or, for historical figures, for many centuries after their death.

In practice, character assassination may involve double speak, spreading of rumors, innuendo or deliberate misinformation on topics relating to the subject's morals, integrity, and reputation. It may involve spinning information that is technically true, but that is presented in a misleading manner or is presented without the necessary context. For example, it might be said that a person refused to pay any income tax during a specific year, without saying that no tax was actually owed due to the person having no income that year.


[edit] In politics
In politics, perhaps the most common form of character assassination is the spread of allegations that a candidate is a liar. Other common themes may include allegations that the candidate is a bad or unpopular member of his family, has a bad relationship with his spouse or children, is disrespected by his former co-workers, or routinely engages in disturbing, socially unacceptable behavior, such as sexual deviancy.

Charging an opponent with character assassination may have political benefits. In the hearings for Clarence Thomas' nomination to the Supreme Court of the United States, supporters claimed that both Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill were victims of character assassination.[1]





character assassination


Noun
an attempt to destroy someone's good reputation by slander or deliberate misrepresentation of his or her views: he described the accusation as `an appalling piece of character assassination'




Proving the Defendant Had Help

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It's difficult to perpetrate fraud, particularly in a corporate setting, without the knowledge and willing involvement of others.

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The law office of John McDuff represents businesses and individuals in Travis County and the Austin, Texas area. Contact me to discuss conspiracy litigation and all related causes of action, including fraud, breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duty and tortious interference. Call 512.457.1177 for an initial consultation.

What Constitutes Conspiracy?

Obviously, it's conspiracy when two people actually plot together to defraud another party or sabotage their enterprise, and then take action. But a conspirator can be a party who assists or encourages the fraud. When two or more parties agree on a course of action, all may be named in a conspiracy lawsuit if any one of them commits a violation of the law. It could involve corporate insiders, brokers, investors or lenders, tax accountants, business partners.

As with fraud litigation, proving conspiracy requires an element of intent. However, we may only need to provide objective evidence of action in concert to show that the fraudulent activity was discussed. Intent to defraud may, in some cases, be imputed from the interaction.

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Monday, July 27, 2009

Don't fit in...???? ... with... Holland michigan whores..


if you can't figure ... that they are whores... oh well...






thermotron ... LOW---- life's__----Holland michigan..


It's easy to find ....L--O---W--- L-i-f-e's

as HIL... said... he has the same "problem" as thomas bannach..

he wants to lie cheat, deceive, and defraud people.. in business and ???

But he still wants ... people to like him !!!!!!???

Go figure.... this is a why ... holland michigan whores...

can be ... be church going whores.....

Ya... even Billl Bench... at Russles tech.. Products... told me..

YOU JOB is to LIE and deceive the customer .. when nessary..!!

IT does NOT matter ... if you LIE.......!!!! 4 me..eeeee





Thursday, July 23, 2009

F*U**K..ing .. people ...over ..and OVER...takes... Training








The first secular job I took since my resignation from the ministry was selling cars. After 3 months of unemployment and trying frantically to get work, I wound up in the 8-by-10 office of the manager of a local San Antonio car dealership who was nice enough to give me the chance with no prior experience in the car selling field. I was excited, but had no idea what I was in for.

Being a car salesman is tough because everyone hates your guts like old eggs. You get treated like a lawyer, a perceived shyster son-of-a-bitch who's just trying to make a buck at the expense of honesty and truth. Actually, selling cars taught me that it's the buyers who lie way more than the salesmen...

Customer: "I saw this car cheaper at the other dealership I was just at."
My reply: "Really? Then why didn't you buy the fucking thing?"

...but I suppose that's another matter. I always thought selling cars would be fun because you get to talk about the stats and features of the vehicles you're peddling, but I came to see that it's not about that at all. It's about moving inventory, crunching numbers, closing deals (with a heavy hand, if necessary), and holding gross. The closer you can stay to the sticker price when closing a deal, the better. Or, if you can peal someone off the ceiling and get even more for the vehicle, all the better. I remember my very first sale, a black 2002 Chevy Malibu. I was high with excitement.

But I also found that the car business is far dirtier than even the porn industry. It is a haven for people with criminal records. Some of the biggest adulterous cocaine snorters I ever met sold cars. I walked into the office of a finance manager who was snorting away his chopped breakfast just as I was hoping to close a deal. I've worked with a guy who did 8 years in the state penitentiary for shooting a man who owed him money. Drug-users, sex offenders...I've worked with them all. They were liars, dirty liars and morally questionable people in most every way. One man I knew would always give us the low-down on his affair five years running with some floozy he was meeting behind his wife's back. Hey, it was his own life. I just minded my own business and appreciated the job for what it was worth.

I made some money and then I quit making money. The car business is designed to get fresh talent, "green peas" as they are called, and squeeze the juice out of them, and when they burn out, they get tossed. It's a cutthroat industry. Your bosses love you as long as you're helping butter their bread, and when you're not, they hate you, even if you were last month's selling superstar. That's the way it works. But what never ceased to occupy my mind was the treachery with which all we humans operate, and not just the car salesmen. We treat each other like shit and the world keeps going around. Never did this become more apparent than in the note car sales department.

Note cars are dealership owned cars, and unlike regularly financed cars which are financed through banks, they are financed in-house and outside of banks. No loans are required; the customer gets the vehicle and has to pay the dealership directly. These note cars are what makes the "credit doesn't matter" car lots possible. Because they are owned in-house, they are cheap cars (both in quality and in price) and when a deal is made on them, the cost of the vehicle is put down up front. That pays off the vehicle, so if the deadbeat to whom it is sold refuses to pay the agreed upon bi-weekly payment, the vehicle is repossessed and then sold again to someone else, resulting in a huge long-term dealer profit. The nice, new, shiny vehicles on the main lot, those are bank financed vehicles. It requires good credit to get them, but the note lot is where you take those with shitty credit--those with beacon scores of 510 or less. They're fucked. They can't go anywhere. They're at our mercy. And the cars suck, and the people who buy them are silently scorned by the dealership because they aren't worth much. That means they better have cash to put down up front. But the note lot was where the real bad stuff was. The note cars were the worst still-drive-able cars available.

I once sold a 2001 Kia Sephia. It was midnight blue and would have been a pretty car were it not for the massive dent on the right side of the hood just above the headlight where rust had consumed it nearly straight through. And that wasn't all; the back had been crushed in during a wreck and rebuilt, but not properly. So as it drove, the back tires would scrape against the wheel wells loudly, making a horrible scraping sound. Piece o' Poop! Your date will be real proud of you in this thing--even more so if she has the honor of getting picked up or dropped off where friends are present! It got worse as the vehicle picked up speed and began to shave off the back tires with a low-vibrating hum being heard in the vehicle! The vehicle needed an alignment worse than I'd have imagined possible, making the driver fight and nearly sprain his wrist trying to keep the vehicle from diving off the road to the right! Kias suck as far as quality and reliability are concerned in general, but this gave a whole new meaning to the term "crapola."

I sold the thing, crappy as it was, but like most note vehicles, it came back on the repo truck only a month later because the stupid dick-wipe to whom I sold it didn't pay on it. I want to call him a fucking loser, but then the car did suck a mean ricardo! I'll settle for just calling him stupid since he put down $2,300 of his own money on the car and then walked away from it.

Then there was my attempted sale of a 1993 Dodge Dakota. The truck was dark green and the body was intact, except for a massively rusted left side of the truck bed. The would-be owner really dug that! The steering column that had been graciously ripped open and hot-wired by kind gentlemen at some point in the past--now that was a big selling feature! And the grass and sand that sat nobly ingrained into the carpeting from the last user (it had never been cleaned upon being repossessed) was just an added bonus to an already fab vehicle! I never sold it. Does that surprise you?

There was a gold 1996 Chrysler LeBaron Turbo that I almost sold to a woman who hadn't paid anything in months. She burst into song for love of it once I opened up the convertible top. That's when she saw that the roof had a leak and water had gotten in and puddled on the back seat, mildewing it. It was then that I learned that rust and grayish white seats ruined from being exposed to the elements will work wonders for a sale!

And I'll never forget the 1989 GMC Sierra Stepside truck I almost sold. The steering column shook and the shift lever was off-kilter so that when you shifted into reverse or drive, you could never tell which gear you were in. You had to experiment to find out if it moved backwards or forwards, and it never stayed in the same place, so there was no way to get it and keep it figured out. I almost ran over a man right in front of his kids because of this piece of dung. The guy's face turned bright red. Luckily, I threw on the brakes in time. But the real highpoint of my selling career on that lot came when I had a man ready to buy it--even with the 293,000 miles it had on it and with blue smoke puffing out the tailpipe! He was a GM enthusiast, and just when we went to crank it up to take it for a ride, the door chime decided it didn't want to go off like it was supposed to when the doors close and the seat belts fastened. Thinking it finally would, we took it for a test drive like that. It never stopped. That conversation of elevated voices went something like this...

Me: "So, [beeeeeeeeep] how long have you been a GM man? [beeeeeeeep]"
Customer: "Oh, all my life. [beeeeeeep ]The last one lasted 500,000 miles until I wrecked it. [beeeeeeeep]"

We were subjected to "beeeeeeeeep" for the whole five-minute trip! It was really fun trying to talk over the sound and drive back to the dealership like that! We got back to the dealership and he said he'd still buy it if we could fix it. I was new still. I thought that to make a deal, they'd fix it, even though I had heard that note cars are never fixed or even cleaned, no matter what. They're just thrown out there as they are. I asked the boss to fix it. He said no. I went to the head honcho and told him the situation, but neither he, nor the maintenance manager himself would give. "They're note cars. We don't fix nothin'." It was never fixed and we lost the deal.

It's a lesson: As humans, we all fuck each other over--somehow, some way, and at some point. If you're a piece of shit who doesn't pay your bills, you're gonna fuck over the people that trusted you to begin with, and then you're gonna get fucked over. If you're a fat-ass car dealer with great credit, you're gonna take those desperate suckers for all they're worth simply because you have them where you want them and they can't do any better. And the car dealers are gonna get fucked over too and are everyday, as every car lot the world over is teaming with low-lives who can't line their pockets to get a deal done. It sucks, but it's life. Everyone's fucking everyone over.

And now, suddenly, everyone has become so tired of having been fucked over for so long that it has finally caught up with us. Car dealers, banks, consumers, etc. everyone's suddenly tired of getting fucked over. Now that the economy is in the toilet, it's open arms and contrite smiles: "Will you give us a bail out, please?" No sir. No ma'am. We've fucked each other over for far too long. We made our bed. Now it's time to lie in it.

Despite the grave predictions of some, I think we may ride these bad economic times out and find clear skies again. The sad thing is, we'll never ride out human nature. We'll keep fucking each other over. It's what we do!

Don't think..... about it... no one else does !!

Senior Field service engineer's... no one else will hire..Uuuuu






Wednesday, July 15, 2009

Employer Defamation Against A Former Employee

AT thermotron it is considered normal to help "build a case against you co-workers"

look for lies and half-truths.. juicy stories.. then U can go into "management"



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Employer Defamation Against A Former Employee

Legal Topics> Jobs and Employment> Discrimination and Harassment> Libel and Slander

Employers who offer references to current and former employees may be exposed to liability for a wide range of things.

One example is when an employer injures a former employee's reputation by making false statements about that employee.

The employee may then sue the employer for defamation.

What Must A Former Employee Prove To Establish A Case Of Defamation Against A Former Employer?

There are five elements that must be proven by the employee to succeed. They are:

The employer made a defamatory statement:

A statement is generally considered defamatory if it harms the former employee's reputation by lowering him in the estimation of the community or deters third parties from associating or dealing with him.

The employer published the defamatory statement to a third party: Publication may be verbal or non-verbal.

The employer's statement was false: Generally, the duty to prove that a defamatory statement is false falls on the former employee.

He must show specific facts demonstrating that his former employer's statements were not well-grounded.

The employer was at fault in making the false statement: The fault an employee must prove is based on the extent of the employer's knowledge that his statement was false.

The false statement caused injury to the employee's reputation:

An employee must prove that his injuries would not have occurred if not for his employer's false defamatory statements.

What Are Some Examples Of Defamation By An Employer?

Although you will want to consult with an attorney to determine whether your exact situation is sufficient to support a cause of action for defamation,

a few examples of possible situations that are likely to result in a successful claim are:

An employer falsely portraying a former employee as an individual who discriminated against a certain class of people

(i.e. African Americans)

An employer falsely alleging that an employee made threatening statements, firing him, and then telling future employers that employee had a history of making such statements

An employer telling a third party that his former employee had done a bad job when there was substantial evidence to the contrary

An employer telling a third party that a former employee's constant alcohol abuse makes him not dependable as an employee

My Former Employer Made False Defamatory Statements About Me That Has Cost Me A New Potential Job -

Do I Need An Attorney?

Your best option is to contact an employment law attorney.

Your attorney can advise you of your rights and let you know if you may be entitled to collect compensation in a lawsuit against your former employer.

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